'Our 
                                      past has become unpredicatable'
                                    Major 
                                      General Moin-ul Hussain Choudhury, was the 
                                      Company Commander of Second East Bengal 
                                      Regiment and eventually became a Battallion 
                                      Commander of the same regiment that captured 
                                      Akhaora from the clutches of Pakistan Army 
                                      early December 1971. A valiant freedom fighter 
                                      and passinate patriot, he speaks to Kaushik 
                                      Sankar Das of The Daily Star. 
                                     DS: 
                                      How do you feel about the country as a freedom 
                                      fighter after 33 years of independence?
DS: 
                                      How do you feel about the country as a freedom 
                                      fighter after 33 years of independence?
                                    MH: 
                                      I feel I have contributed my fare share 
                                      in the making of this nation. At that time 
                                      victory was not a destination, it's just 
                                      a beginning of a journey. But now after 
                                      so many years of the freedom struggle, I 
                                      have to say that the state of affairs in 
                                      Bangladesh, in my opinion, is in a stage 
                                      of decay and it's unfortunate that I have 
                                      no option but to watch from the sidelines. 
                                      
                                    DS: 
                                      May be you could have done something for 
                                      the country from the position you held over 
                                      the years?
                                    MH: 
                                      Well, as a government servant I couldn't 
                                      do much. But I have done whatever I could 
                                      with a clear conscience. If there were any 
                                      errors in my judgement, it occurred not 
                                      because of my dishonesty or self interest. 
                                      Because to me, my country always came first. 
                                      I have been loyal to it all along, wherever 
                                      I served, whether in the armed forces or 
                                      as an ambassador for sixteen years and various 
                                      positions. At the end of the day my conscience 
                                      is clear. 
                                    But 
                                      after more than three decades of independence, 
                                      we have lawlessness, brutalities and developed 
                                      a feeling of simply grabbing whatever we 
                                      want. We are loosing all the habits of a 
                                      civilised living. People of Bangladesh have 
                                      been accustomed to lawless conditions for 
                                      so long that they are no longer law abiding. 
                                      Only gun is feared today. Terrorism, corruption, 
                                      injustice, poverty, inequality and uncertainty 
                                      has become a way of life for people in Bangladesh.
                                    DS: 
                                      So do you the regret fighting for your country's 
                                      independence?
                                    MH: 
                                      I don't regret it at all. as such. Till 
                                      today it was the best phase of my entire 
                                      life. I spent nine months in the battle 
                                      field fighting for my country that brought 
                                      me more prode, satisfaction and enjoyment 
                                      than any other of my duties. I have had 
                                      a lot of important assignments in my career, 
                                      but nothing could ever match the days of 
                                      fighting for my country. And if the need 
                                      arises, I would fight again. 
                                    But 
                                      the question is whether those in the leadership 
                                      have failed the people of Bangladesh. I 
                                      agree that like others I am also responsible 
                                      to a certain extent, but others were more 
                                      responsible because they decided the destiny 
                                      of the country. 
                                    DS: 
                                      But you were in the armed forces when martial 
                                      law took over the power and stayed there 
                                      for a long time. May be you could have done 
                                      something in that undemocratic, uncertain 
                                      situation?
                                    MH: 
                                      What could I have done? May be carry out 
                                      another coup? That was something I did not 
                                      believe in. I never believed in conspiracy 
                                      or unethical activities. I believed in people's 
                                      participation in forming governance. And 
                                      they toppled the martial law government 
                                      with a popular movement in 1990. But remember 
                                      all these situations arose because of lack 
                                      of responsible political leadership. When 
                                      a country is well managed and the constitution 
                                      is truly respected, no captain, colonel, 
                                      major or general can come out of the barracks 
                                      and stage a coup. The vaccination against 
                                      military coup is good governance.
                                    DS: 
                                      During your tenure as an ambassador, the 
                                      country was under military rule. How did 
                                      you cope with the situation?
                                    MH: 
                                      I admit that it was a sorry state and I 
                                      had to answer a lot of questions. I represented 
                                      my country under two democratic governments 
                                      too. But honestly there was not much difference. 
                                      The country's image in the world, I would 
                                      say, was nothing much to talk about. We 
                                      have had three democratic governments since 
                                      the nineties, but you tell me what's the 
                                      state of the country now. 
                                    DS: 
                                      Why are we still trying to find true stories 
                                      of the liberation was from those who were 
                                      actively involved in it? 
                                    MH: 
                                      We are living in a country where our past 
                                      has become unpredictable more than the future. 
                                      History is being written in loose leafs; 
                                      with the change of each government, new 
                                      pages are being added and old ones are being 
                                      taken out. To tell you honestly, I am really 
                                      amazed at our immaturity, the national culture 
                                      of immaturity and unpredictability. After 
                                      33 years of independence, we are still making 
                                      list of freedom fighters, the number in 
                                      that list is getting bigger and bigger by 
                                      the years. 
                                    During 
                                      the war, I had problems recruiting new members 
                                      for my regular battalion, and now you hear 
                                      thousands and thousands have certificates. 
                                      Yes there were organisers and passive supporters, 
                                      I do not want to undermine their contributions, 
                                      but who were fighting in the fields, who 
                                      took up arms, who were willing to sacrifice 
                                      their lives?
                                    Most 
                                      of our recruits were farmers and young boys. 
                                      You would be amazed to know that I had as 
                                      young as 14 year old boys in the battalion 
                                      fighting. I do not see many of them cueing 
                                      up for certificates? And who are issuing 
                                      these certificates? They might have legal 
                                      authority, but what moral authority do they 
                                      have? 
                                    Let 
                                      me tell you a story. Once I received an 
                                      official letter that said if I wanted to 
                                      get certificate of a being a freedom fighter, 
                                      I had to be recommended by my Thana Commander. 
                                      I laughed because I myself was commander 
                                      of a battalion. It was ridiculous!
                                    DS: 
                                      Is that the reason you do not mention the 
                                      gallantry award after your name given to 
                                      you for your contribution in the war? 
                                    MH: 
                                      I think the gallantry awards were given 
                                      indiscriminately and without much investigation. 
                                      Gallantry means fighting in the battlefields. 
                                      So I thought it was appropriate for me to 
                                      accept it, since I fought in the battle. 
                                      But I think the award was also given to 
                                      people who never fired a shot in anger. 
                                      
                                    I 
                                      am, not angry about it, but to me it doesn't 
                                      mean anything any more. That's why I do 
                                      not use it after my name. The mere fact 
                                      I arrived in Dhaka on December 16 in a uniform 
                                      with my 800 troops should be enough. I got 
                                      my recognition from the people who fought 
                                      along with me for my own satisfaction. 
                                    DS: 
                                      How do you feel about the politics surrounding 
                                      the liberation war?
                                    MH: 
                                      Every year when March and December comes, 
                                      we say that Muktijudhho is our pride, the 
                                      rest of the ten months it remains an ornament. 
                                      We Bangalees love myths. There are lots 
                                      of myths surrounding the liberation war. 
                                      Children are being taught those myths, which 
                                      may not be true, but fascinating stories. 
                                      It's unfortunate that we are still quarreling 
                                      over this. As a nation we remain immature. 
                                      
                                    We 
                                      must know our past. We can only build our 
                                      future based on the values and spirit of 
                                      the past. But definitely not based on falsehood 
                                      and lies. Truth must be known to people. 
                                      The efforts should be to separate the facts 
                                      from fiction. 
                                    Every 
                                      political party used freedom fight and the 
                                      fighters for political mileage instead of 
                                      genuinely respect the sacrifice and courage 
                                      of the fighters. They all tried to monopolise 
                                      the war of independence. It should not have 
                                      been. Many people like me fought for certain 
                                      values. We fought because we thought people 
                                      wanted freedom from Pakistan. Life is full 
                                      of risks. I was not afraid of death, but 
                                      I was afraid of my life on my knees under 
                                      the Pakistanis. I revolted though I had 
                                      oath of allegiance to Pakistan and its constitution. 
                                      But I was more loyal to my sense of honour 
                                      and dignity. 
                                    We 
                                      accepted certain political leadership because 
                                      they were elected representatives. But whether 
                                      the political leaders have been able to 
                                      uphold that pride, honour and dignity is 
                                      a million dollar question.
                                    DS: 
                                      Do you see any lights of hope at the end 
                                      of the tunnel?
                                      MHC: I don't really know. I would say that 
                                      the disease has spread, like cancer, to 
                                      all parts of our society. We are so foolish 
                                      that we behave like beggars. Give a beggar 
                                      a horse, he will ride it till death. Let's 
                                      not do that. 
                                    I 
                                      have stopped believing what I hear from 
                                      our leaders. I only believe what I see. 
                                      Celebrating independence has become a ritual. 
                                      But I would ask our leaders who celebrate 
                                      the day to search their souls. They should 
                                      ask themselves what have they done to celebrate 
                                      the victory day, what have they done for 
                                      the country. They should ask their conscience.
                                    
                                    Streets 
                                      of Dhaka on 16 December 
                                    Nilufar 
                                      Begum
                                     When 
                                      we heard about the offer to surrender of 
                                      the Pak Army from General Manekshaw of the 
                                      combined forces we were contemplating over 
                                      the reaction of General Niazi to it. Our 
                                      utmost concern was whether the Pakistani 
                                      General would accept the offer or not. We 
                                      were very much terrified over the consequence 
                                      of rejecting the offer by Niazi.
When 
                                      we heard about the offer to surrender of 
                                      the Pak Army from General Manekshaw of the 
                                      combined forces we were contemplating over 
                                      the reaction of General Niazi to it. Our 
                                      utmost concern was whether the Pakistani 
                                      General would accept the offer or not. We 
                                      were very much terrified over the consequence 
                                      of rejecting the offer by Niazi. 
                                    As 
                                      the day passed, our anxiety and restlessness 
                                      increased. With the passage of every minute 
                                      we became desperate to know about the latest 
                                      position. The transistor and particularly 
                                      the news broadcast of the foreign Radio 
                                      stations were the only sources of information 
                                      for us. It however did not help us much.
                                    Three 
                                      migs, obviously Indian ones flew in the 
                                      morning over the sky of Dhaka. We still 
                                      could not conclude about the fate of the 
                                      surrender offer though the deadline for 
                                      accepting it was already over. As there 
                                      was no other visible sign of the surrender, 
                                      anxiety turned into great apprehension. 
                                      We started thinking perhaps the last battle 
                                      is going to be fought very soon.
                                    It 
                                      was noon. The elders were pale and terrified. 
                                      It had its repercussion on the younger lot 
                                      too. This could not, however, stop their 
                                      war-play. Occasionally they asked -- why 
                                      the flocks of Migs don't play in the sky 
                                      to-day? Why there is no sound of firing? 
                                      Naturally there were very few responses 
                                      to their queries.
                                    It 
                                      was about 2.30 pm, just after having lunch, 
                                      all on a sudden a very known horn and engine 
                                      sound surprised us. It was my elder brother 
                                      who just parked his car outside the gate 
                                      of our house and knocked at the door. He 
                                      was smiling, beaming with joy -- and triumphantly 
                                      broke the news of victory to us. 'Don't 
                                      you know Niazi has declared to surrender? 
                                      Very soon he will formally surrendezr to 
                                      Lt. Gen. Aurora at the Race Course.'
                                    We 
                                      hurriedly got into my younger brother's 
                                      car and started for the Race Course.
                                    On 
                                      our way we saw a group of men assembled 
                                      in the Nimtali Rail crossing and seemed 
                                      to be whispering with each other. They were 
                                      at first surprised to see us in a car out 
                                      to move around in the city. Then suddenly 
                                      one or two of them greeted us with the slogan, 
                                      'Joy Bangla'. Instantaneously we all reciprocated 
                                      quite vigorously, for a moment we were carried 
                                      away by a sentiment of oneness and victory.
                                    Crossing 
                                      the Railway Hospital we proceeded to the 
                                      direction of the then DPI office. There 
                                      was hardly anyone on the street. Unexpectedly 
                                      we saw a small procession of ten to fifteen 
                                      men at best in the corner of the old High 
                                      Court building. A few kids were also among 
                                      them. They were carrying triumphantly the 
                                      new flag of the newly born country. We waved 
                                      at them and they replied in chorus with 
                                      thundering slogan 'Joy Bangla'.
                                    When 
                                      we reached near the Engineers' Institute, 
                                      we were stopped suddenly by the soldiers 
                                      in a truck. They forbade us to proceed further. 
                                      We could not exactly recognise them to which 
                                      side they belonged. We had to turn back. 
                                      Keeping the Ramna Garden to our left we 
                                      then started for Tenement Road where Mr. 
                                      Mahammad Ali, my younger brother's friend 
                                      and a co-fighter in the liberation struggle 
                                      used to reside. He was completely taken 
                                      aback to see us. Until then he was unaware 
                                      of the surrender of the Pakistani Army and 
                                      the consequent liberation of our country. 
                                      On getting the information from us he was 
                                      choked with emotion and delighted in joy. 
                                      
                                    From 
                                      there we started again for the Race Course 
                                      by a different road. After proceeding a 
                                      while a pickup with a few non-Bengaless 
                                      suddenly overtook us in a menacing way. 
                                      Immediately after that a jeep arrived on 
                                      the scene. It came just behind us. It seemed 
                                      the jeep had been following the earlier 
                                      pick-up. Suddenly they started exchanging 
                                      fire. We were caught between them. Fortunately 
                                      we managed to save ourselves and got a way-out. 
                                      Quickly we entered into an empty house to 
                                      save ourselves. 
                                    When 
                                      the exchange of fire stopped we hurriedly 
                                      came out of our temporary hide-out and tried 
                                      to return to safety in Tenement Road. We 
                                      were told that it was not yet safe to move 
                                      in the street as many Pakistani soldiers 
                                      were unaware of the surrender till then 
                                      and as such could fire at anybody they saw 
                                      in their way. At this stage we became really 
                                      nervous and desperately wished to reach 
                                      home safely.
                                    On 
                                      our way-back we saw in few places non-Bengalees 
                                      lying in position with their machine guns 
                                      in ditches, bushes and behind walls and 
                                      bearded Mukhti Bahinis in batches to wipe 
                                      out the remnants of the Pakistani resistance. 
                                      
                                    Changing 
                                      our route we came in front of the Gulistan 
                                      Cinema Hall. Here again we were intercepted 
                                      by two Bengali patriots. Greeting us 'Joy 
                                      Bangla' they asked us not to go towards 
                                      the then Fulbaria Station. Pakistani soldiers 
                                      were still on guard there. Expressing our 
                                      gratitude to them we changed our direction 
                                      and came in front of the then DPI Office 
                                      through the Secretariat road. Suddenly our 
                                      attention was drawn to dead body lying on 
                                      the other side of the road just in front 
                                      of the former BNR office. We were simply 
                                      thunder-struck at the sight. Oh God! It's 
                                      that young man who was carrying the flag 
                                      of new nation; who was at the head of the 
                                      small procession, we saw an hour ago; who 
                                      shouted 'Joy Bangla', at us and whom we 
                                      saluted in respect. But the murderers have 
                                      not been able to snatch away the flag form 
                                      his hand. He has lost his life but he has 
                                      not given up the honour of the nation. 
                                    We 
                                      then turned to the FH Hall and thought to 
                                      be completely safe but all on a sudden quite 
                                      unexpectedly we were in the midst of a large 
                                      number of soldiers who were passing through 
                                      the road.
                                    They 
                                      were in two rows and we found ourselves 
                                      between their rows. At first we considered 
                                      them as Indian soldiers and as such we greeted 
                                      them by waving our hands. Soon we realised 
                                      our mistake and shuddered in fear. They 
                                      were Pakistanis, damn-tired, dispirited 
                                      and demoralised -- marching towards the 
                                      Race Course for their formal surrender.
                                    In 
                                      such a situation our car came to almost 
                                      a dead stop. We took about ten minutes to 
                                      cover a distance of two seconds -- from 
                                      Curzan Hall corner to the Railway Hospital 
                                      (present Karmachari Hospital) turning. When 
                                      we were passing through the rows of Pakistani 
                                      soldiers we were apprehending death at any 
                                      moment. We were perhaps counting moment 
                                      of our final end. 
                                    When 
                                      we reached Railway Hospital turning we saw 
                                      two fresh dead-bodies lumped together on 
                                      the street. We thought they had been killed 
                                      by the same Pakistani soldiers through whom 
                                      we passed a few moment's ago. Seeing these 
                                      dead-bodies we pondered why they had not 
                                      killed us? Until today I have not got the 
                                      answer to this query.